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MrWhoIsIt
05-06-2011, 08:13 PM
I was just simply wondering. Why dont you allow a family to be called 'Nazi Family' Because you do allow someone to be called Adolf Hitler ?. Also Hitler was a gangster that went abit to far lol But on TMB we celebrate gangsters by using they names and playing on here they all murderers at the end of the day so WHY cant we have a nazi family ?.

JohnnyBoy
05-06-2011, 08:27 PM
I was just wondering what doctor decided to keep you alive

MrWhoIsIt
05-06-2011, 08:34 PM
Iam just asking a simple question except it or dont look back at this post.

BlackCat
05-06-2011, 09:31 PM
Pretty sure Hitler was a politician not a gangster. I imagine it's probably got something to do with bad press that the Nazi party suffered.

afasdfsdfs
05-06-2011, 10:31 PM
I was just wondering what doctor decided to keep you alive

Wow you're so edgy!

He asked a legitimate question and your remark is to wish he had died at birth?

MrWhoIsIt
05-06-2011, 10:32 PM
Hahaha Majority of politicains are gangsters they run the governmet its all just abig mafia to steal woking class peoples money.

Who needs a F-ing government LOL at one time we lived in caves and looked after each other these days everyone only cares bout themselves and they money and fame and F-ing stupid fashion.

WORKING CLASS UNITE AGAINST CONSERVATIVE CAPITALISTS AND COMMUNISTS.

Danzig
05-07-2011, 01:34 AM
Hitler was a great artist..not a gangster silly

Chance
05-07-2011, 08:36 AM
Hahaha Majority of politicains are gangsters they run the governmet its all just abig mafia to steal woking class peoples money.

Who needs a F-ing government LOL at one time we lived in caves and looked after each other these days everyone only cares bout themselves and they money and fame and F-ing stupid fashion.

WORKING CLASS UNITE AGAINST CONSERVATIVE CAPITALISTS AND COMMUNISTS.

Really? We were more civilized, when we were basically living like afghanis? Interesting observation.

JohnnyBoy
05-07-2011, 08:54 AM
Wow you're so edgy!

He asked a legitimate question and your remark is to wish he had died at birth?

Clever one you are

MrWhoIsIt
05-07-2011, 11:12 AM
Money is just a Man made thing it dosnt really exist.

blueniNJa
05-07-2011, 11:13 AM
hahaha majority of politicains are gangsters they run the governmet its all just abig mafia to steal woking class peoples money.

Who needs a f-ing government lol at one time we lived in caves and looked after each other these days everyone only cares bout themselves and they money and fame and f-ing stupid fashion.

Working class unite against conservative capitalists and communists.

yawnnnnnnnnnnn

MrWhoIsIt
05-07-2011, 11:14 AM
Anywhere main point. Why isnt it allowed ? Its all basically the same.

BlackCat
05-07-2011, 12:41 PM
I like your idea that money is man made and therefore isn't real (adlibbing.) That's a concept that cpuld be applied to anything. You cook a meal but because itks man made it doesn't exist.

Like I said it's probably got something to do with the racial and religious prejudices displayed by Hitler and the Nazi party.

Ratty
05-07-2011, 03:34 PM
@MrWhoIsIt I think is has something to do with the 6,000,000 Jews the twat ordered to be killed........

Dre
05-07-2011, 04:03 PM
Like Internet...and?

MrWhoIsIt
05-07-2011, 05:10 PM
And what about the 50 mill christians that died in soviet russia at the hands of stalin why isnt that never mensioned ?.

Yet you can have a so called communist family like MBU with the soviet flag yet you cant have a nazi flag ? isit just me or does it seem to be massivly unfair ?

respect to thoughs that died due to communism.

Storm
05-07-2011, 06:19 PM
Hello all

Okay this is a good question and as staff we do have to often debate issues like this.

From a staff perspective:

Basically - The Nazi party, according to history - stood for something, or propagated something - that many players here find offensive, and they will complain to no end until something is done.

Adolf Hitler....Hitler, or Adolf, are names... and technically, as staff, we should just leave these, but again our mailboxes become flooded with irate players, and either we do something - or actually end up having altercations with the players who, in the first place reported it and we end up having to enforce rules on them...abuse, etc...

The arguments here from players are as follows: This is an adult themed game, so we should just allow it all.

Another: this is offensive and must be removed as players do not sign on to find their race, religion or whatever to suddenly be under attack, insulted, cursed or ridiculed...it just goes on and on.

So our decisions here have to be unilateral - either allow all, or revoke all...VERY occasionally, we do manage to negotiate some grey area, but this is very rare.

It's not easy sometimes, I tell you...

Storm
05-07-2011, 06:30 PM
Here we go: Prime example below: so now the player asks a very legitimate question...

If this were in my mailbox...first I go for the grey areas...this would be my initial response:

Well, MBU has been around for ages, why did you not ask this question last round, the round before, and every round before that if you feel so strongly about this?

*I ask in my mind as follows*.....Is game politics creeping in here in this statement/query? Which family or union is he from? Is he just taking a dig using rules to further his game agenda?

Now I wait for his response, and take it from there, trying to maintain a positive relationship until the bitter end...because I have already made up my mind that I am not going to suddenly ask MBU, (or any other family...) that has been using the same icon for ages, to suddenly change it and possibly their name, at the whim of another player who has had ample opportunity in the past to object.

There's a poem or prayer about this somewhere...."Give me the strength to..." etc



And what about the 50 mill christians that died in soviet russia at the hands of stalin why isnt that never mensioned ?.

Yet you can have a so called communist family like MBU with the soviet flag yet you cant have a nazi flag ? isit just me or does it seem to be massivly unfair ?

respect to thoughs that died due to communism.

KA1N
05-07-2011, 07:43 PM
this was my first silly and inconsiderate post comment so admin has edited this...I hope I change my ways soon

KA1N
05-07-2011, 07:46 PM
i made a silly comment so Admin edited this.

i cannot help being silly, as I am inconsiderate to others - hopefully i will grow up soon

KA1N
05-07-2011, 07:47 PM
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vbb
05-07-2011, 10:47 PM
well it is a part of history ( hitler nazis ) that cant b changed. right or wrong? wait make sure ur whores have alot of coke or they will quit u fuckin douche bag mother fuckers!

Storm
05-08-2011, 12:26 AM
And there you go..typical repsponse...from Ka1n that will incite anger - now I hope you all get some insight....I have a good friend here on TMBthat I used to play with,that is always quick witted to make jokes about race...and once in a joke I said something to him...and he was like...out of the blue..."Dude, don't say that shit to me, I was in Iraq, and saw many of my fellowsoldiers die there..." ...quick to defend his own....but when the shoe is on the otherfoot...sorry guys...

...But all of your posts like this we will delete as staff simply because there is no tolerance either way.

The End

KA1N
05-08-2011, 09:04 AM
MAN tits :D

im just teasing the people.. this fucks needs some extreme answers for their provocative questions...

im just doing my duty as an instigator

(im not racist and i get along with everyone... just teasing your ballz)


lol

KA1N
05-08-2011, 09:06 AM
Fuck u blind and danzig xoxoxox

MrWhoIsIt
05-08-2011, 10:23 AM
Thanks for answering storm. But i wasnt bad mouthing MBU i was asking why do you allow the soviet icon and not the nazi icon the soviets killed 50 mill christians the nazis only killed 9 mill jews in comparasant its nothing yet soviets are left alone and the nazis are persecuted. it dosnt make sense They both as bad as each other if not WORSE !

PS. Ive been meaning to answere this question for ages but i just havent got round to it.

Danzig
05-12-2011, 10:26 PM
Kain, you are the best.lmao I hope to one day have sex with you on you little prayer blankie

MrWhoIsIt
05-13-2011, 04:15 PM
List of shit

- IRA
- TALIBAN
- AL-QUIDA
- NAZIS
- CAPITALISTS AND COMMUNISTS,,.

For the world to be a holy kind gererous and just place we need to erradicate these vermin scum from the earth

God be with the good people.

KA1N
05-13-2011, 04:26 PM
you MF!! you forgot to mention the IRS!! LOL

MrWhoIsIt
05-13-2011, 04:28 PM
That to lol. When the revolution comes. DOWN WITH THE GOVERNMENT

KA1N
05-19-2011, 12:04 AM
this was my first silly and inconsiderate post comment so admin has edited this...I hope I change my ways soon



hahahahaha i didnt post this... what i posted was... "do not allow....


LOL

The_Black_Cat
05-19-2011, 09:55 PM
Hitler was a great artist..not a gangster silly

just an artist....not a great one.

and definately a gangster....big time....he had a posse and all :P

MrWorker
05-19-2011, 11:06 PM
just an artist....not a great one.

and definately a gangster....big time....he had a posse and all :P

Thats why i said he was a gangster haha. He came from the ghetto so ofcourse hes a gangsta he had gold chains and a diamond in his mustache YOOO out some wagner on the box please and lets pops some tunes.

The_Black_Cat
05-21-2011, 10:45 AM
if he had MTV he would be on 'Cribs" with his Eagle's Nest i'm sure....showing of his Mercedes and such.

MrWorker
05-26-2011, 11:47 PM
Hitler was tooo coool for schoool when his uncle/father found out he had an ''ART'' attack from his coolness to be a artists.

The_Black_Cat
05-27-2011, 11:12 AM
Maybe Americans belong in this list as well for throwing nuclear bombs....

Or anyone believing in some kind of god...for killing all non-believers in past, present, future.....

The_Black_Cat
05-27-2011, 11:13 AM
bla bla

always pointing elsewhere and you should know when you point at someone there's 3 fingers pointing back at you.....

MrWorker
05-27-2011, 04:26 PM
Whats that got to do with Remotely anything to do with hitler ?

Here mate every country around the world as bad and good things the japs slave laboured and tortured our British soldiers ( like the nazis did to the jews ) In prison of war camps. The communist Russian/China/NK/Cuba ETC ( Athiests ) have killed Around 130 mill christians Plus a few other religous minorities. So that dosn't make athiests so great They also kill babys do athiest with they abortions. Atleast religions have a moral code athiests dont. You Athiest / Communist are just hipocrits

People in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.

You athiests think you can get away with insulting religions and religous people arnt gonna say owt and if we do we are in the wrong. Athiest piss me off with they strong ignorance.

MrWorker
05-27-2011, 08:06 PM
Me Personnally iam not particulary religous. But i am christian and as a christian i will defend MY faith. Other than that the majority of the people in this world are cunts. the world needs to be cleansed of this evil disease called humanity.

God bless the earth And GOOD people.

MrWorker
05-27-2011, 08:15 PM
Iam drawing aline under religion and stuff now because its doing my F-ing head in.

_____________________________________

Whats with you and Yanks 'V' ? nearly every single post youve mensioned something about yanks ?

The_Black_Cat
05-28-2011, 11:34 PM
this thread started with Nazi's...next in line going for domination in the world are yanks...and commies...lol

and btw atheists are different from agnostic people....

MrWorker
05-29-2011, 12:07 AM
ive seen somewhere that 98% are religous or agnostic and only 2% are total athiest. Are you agnostic then V lol.

Yeah communism seems to be rising again especially these college brats they have no idea. Iam all for taking down the rich but not opening the flood gates.. COME ON ! theys hardly enough jobs as it is. Yeah yanks like to play mummy to the world with its tits hanging out LOL.

sketchy
05-29-2011, 03:01 AM
They may have stopped hitler, but the harvest of mankind continues. :)



And The winepresses of God will run as deep as the seas, red with the blood of mankind!

sketchy
05-29-2011, 03:44 AM
The great thing about God is that he doesn't care wether youre a capitalist, communist, socialist, Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindi or what colour your skin is or how tall you are he runs you thru the grinders, and threshers, and winepresses where in the other side thereof we all look the same, an endless sea of ground flesh and bones waiting to be re-constituted as plastic bottles, or gasoline, or a side of beef at a rester aunt, or a can of soup, or become he rubber for a tire on a garbage truck, to carpeting on a fancy rich mans mantion in which he only gets to live in by spirit. Hahahahahaha



I'm hungry

Al-Capone
05-29-2011, 04:59 AM
I was just simply wondering. Why dont you allow a family to be called 'Nazi Family' Because you do allow someone to be called Adolf Hitler ?. Also Hitler was a gangster that went abit to far lol But on TMB we celebrate gangsters by using they names and playing on here they all murderers at the end of the day so WHY cant we have a nazi family ?.

Because the world is a contradictory place and run by Jews. Adolf Hitler was the greatest statesman of all time. Never has a man loved his people so dearly and provided them with such hope, wisdom and life. As Albert Speer once said, "Hitler gives me the motivation to live!"

This man was a humble orphan in Vienna, Austria before he volunteered for Germany in WWI where he was decorated for his extreme bravery. He was in a hospital bed when he heard the news of the November Traitors signing the surrender of Germany. He at this point made it his life's goal to rescue his people from suffering which he did.

The Jews united and their slave workers worked to see the destruction of Hitler for the most illegitimate reason: for the invasion of Poland which the USSR also took place in! The difference is, Germany was taking back lost land whereas the USSR was taking the other half of Poland as their final step to the dozen or so takeovers they accomplished in other countries. Instead of justly condeming the USSR, the allies waged war on Germany!

The world sickens me! WHITE MEN OF ALL NATIONS, REALIZE YOUR COMMON FOE!

MrWorker
05-29-2011, 10:29 AM
Your forgetting about the poor disabled people and the jehovah witnesses that too died at the hands of this nutta. Stalin was worser than hitler no doubt but even so you cant justify killing on any scale. theve both as bad as each other.

I agree the world sickens me but that dosnt mean you pick up a gun and start killing people. USSR was a big contradictory your right ive already mensioned that. The USSR said that they against imperialists ? WOW !. The USSR invaded loads and i mean loads of countrys especially poland.( All poland did was swap invaders ). They invaded afghanistan aswell USSR communism in gerneral is a traitor to its meaning not one communist country as done what it said it was gonna do. theve all done the oposit

MrWorker
05-29-2011, 10:32 AM
But the majority of jews where white lol. and they still are. Jew is a religion NOT a race. Religion is religion - Race is Race.

Religion - christian - Jew - muslim

Race - White - Black - Brown

Shade
05-29-2011, 03:28 PM
Your forgetting about the poor disabled people and the jehovah witnesses that too died at the hands of this nutta. Stalin was worser than hitler no doubt but even so you cant justify killing on any scale. theve both as bad as each other.

I agree the world sickens me but that dosnt mean you pick up a gun and start killing people. USSR was a big contradictory your right ive already mensioned that. The USSR said that they against imperialists ? WOW !. The USSR invaded loads and i mean loads of countrys especially poland.( All poland did was swap invaders ). They invaded afghanistan aswell USSR communism in gerneral is a traitor to its meaning not one communist country as done what it said it was gonna do. theve all done the oposit

Worser?????

Shade
05-29-2011, 03:28 PM
But the majority of jews where white lol. and they still are. Jew is a religion NOT a race. Religion is religion - Race is Race.

Religion - christian - Jew - muslim

Race - White - Black - Brown

Jew is a religion? A jew is someone who practices Judaism, not the religion itself. Therefore your argument is invalid.

MrWorker
05-29-2011, 03:39 PM
Jew is a religion? A jew is someone who practices Judaism, not the religion itself. Therefore your argument is invalid.

I was wondering when this typical political correctness was gonna kick in. It looks like now YAWWWN get a life mate you knwo damn well what i ment idiot

MrWorker
05-29-2011, 03:42 PM
Yeah 'shade' worser. Compare 6 mill jews to 40-50 mill christians please that died at the hands of stalin.

MrWorker
05-29-2011, 03:48 PM
Stalin was worser he didnt care about his people . HITLER did, Stalin made them charge and if they didnt then they would be executed. 20 mill soviets died because of stalins ignorance and 40-50 mill christians died before the war because of the soviets. THATS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY HITLER INVADED RUSSIA TO GET SOME PAY BACK. Abit like RATKO MLADIC he revenged the christians that died because of the albanians .

what gos around comes around.

Shade
05-29-2011, 03:54 PM
Yeah 'shade' worser. Compare 6 mill jews to 40-50 mill christians please that died at the hands of stalin.

I'm not denying the fact that Stalin systematically killed his own people, I'm just correcting your poor use of the English language.

Shade
05-29-2011, 03:58 PM
and plus, I agree with you. Stalin was "worser" he not only starved entire populations in the Soviet Union, but he worked millions to death.

MrWorker
05-29-2011, 11:01 PM
Glorius communism at its best :). Whoever wants communism must be a total nut job. Theys one garantee with communism - Oppresion.

And dont worry about my spelling mate. Iam sure you have other things to worry about besides my spelling.

MrWorker
05-29-2011, 11:23 PM
To re-cap on what ive said. is that the world is a big contradiction. Like nazism and communism same shit different names. And theys no justification in any killings - murderings like ive already said a 100th time. Only God can give or take life. Not humans.

no
05-30-2011, 08:12 AM
tmb likes to ban people for glitches they don't care about 6 mil jews dead.

MrWorker
05-30-2011, 10:23 AM
GOTT MIT UNS - Hitler wehrmacht eid

Ich schwöre bei Gott diesen heiligen Eid, daß ich dem Führer des Deutschen Reiches und Volkes Adolf Hitler, dem Oberbefehlshaber der Wehrmacht, unbedingten Gehorsam leisten und als tapferer Soldat bereit sein will, jederzeit für diesen Eid mein Leben einzusetzen

NICE OATH ! You gotta admit

MrWorker
05-30-2011, 03:45 PM
Lets not get carried away with our selves here. I like jews and i'm pro isreal. judaism is basically christianity UN-FINISHED all they need to do is eccept jesus and then they are christians. They may have different techniques lol but who dosnt.

They's no need for that head banging at the wall neither.

MrWorker
05-30-2011, 11:43 PM
Reason been why Pro isreal is because. Theve had alot of shit off of countries over the time and nobody else wants them in they country so i think they rightfully should have isreal as they country, and along time ago isreal belonged to jews before invaders came.

It says that isreal would return. and it AS ......

The_Black_Cat
05-31-2011, 10:16 AM
it was given to them by the English and it wasn't theirs to give away....

it would be the same thing if China invaded USA and told every southern person that it's Indian ('native american') country now and they should move...people from the south of US wouldn't leave and would fight for their homes.....is same thing Palestines are doing.

and you can always wonder why people dislike Jews for some reason...around the period before WW2 they actually were used doing business with 'their people' only and same thing with marriages etc...they acted like a seperate group (still do though) and eventually were treated like that.

it's not the first time they did such a thing and started acting differently from everyone else and it's not the first time everyone else was sick and tired of them....

and you'll find such behaviour with every religious "freak" whether they are Jew, Muslim, Christian.....and i think the moment they all start acting like a different group of people they shouldn't be bothered when people treat them as such.

israel is a farce.....it's a gesture of 'the west' to stock their Jew population elsewhere.....and if it isn't like that it's yet another one of USA's states....to have influence in middle east.

MrWorker
05-31-2011, 12:57 PM
USA as got F all to do with anything lol. Isreal used to be a country 1000's of years ago before it was overrun by invaders. Now isreal as come back. people want to see it crushed. But the thing is parts of palestine was isreal 1000's of years ago. Its all basically isreally turf so basically all isreal is doing is taking back they old ground.

They shouldnt kill people but then again its only in self defense radicals blow up streets and kill 100s of innocents so obviously thats gonna ANGER the isrealys especially if they family members have been killed.

Abit like Ratko mladic. The albanians killed persecuted christians. So ratko got some revenge on the albanians.

Its TIT FOR TAT.

The_Black_Cat
05-31-2011, 01:08 PM
that was OVER 2000 years ago....can greeks (or macedonians) still claim middle east and parts of india as well with that being said? it would greatly help them atm with their massive debts etc....lol

and if you go sit in someone else's country you can expect yourself to act out of 'self defense' soon enough as well....lmao!

AND if you think USA has nothing to do with it....you missed out on decades of recent history....

and mladic...pff well i guess Serbia needs European membership all of a sudden hahahaha also a farce: they could have taken him prisoner long time ago if they really wanted....now he is old and will enjoy nice old day being pampered in 'prison'...

somehow religions make people do 'funny' stuff.....

The_Black_Cat
05-31-2011, 01:13 PM
if israel has any reason for existence i think we should get byzantium back as well for all orthodox christians...bye bye turkey

or give new york back to the Dutch and call it new amsterdam again....bye bye americans.....or should i say: immigrated europeans.....

this does sound just as ridiculous doesn't it?

MrWorker
05-31-2011, 04:32 PM
If someone takes your money and you take it back does that also make you a theif ?

Its quite different. Thoughs lands like america wasnt populated ''very much'' they only had a few natives at the time in reality all americans are british and dutch decendants.. But we can go on forever about british comming from germany anglo saxons ETC and them comming from africa etc. So iam not talking about that,

Isreal as a right to exist because it was orriginally a country. before it was invaded, and because of all the hatred theve had and nobody wants them ( jews ) In they country then where the hell else are they ment to go ?.

( Religion is a religion ) Not a nationality. iam onabout the country itself as a right to exist. But because its majority is jews i too think they have the right to live they. BUT THEY SHOULD SHARE because its also a christian Holy Land.

MrWorker
05-31-2011, 04:36 PM
I agree byzantium is rightfully othodox christian so that should be back christian aswell.

Like i said if someone take your money and you take it back does that make you a theif?.

It may sound crazy to you because its been 2000' years or whatever. But at the end of the day whats right is right. It sound as if your saying that because its was conquered it should remain conquered. Its oly the same if someone conquerred your country and you wanted it back

Lil_Boosie
05-31-2011, 06:41 PM
Hitler was a great artist..not a gangster silly

Hitler was actually a terrible artist, he tried to get into Vienna school of art and they wouldnt let him in cuz he was so bad

MrWorker
06-01-2011, 12:04 AM
But MAYBE if they did let him in. He wouldnt have killed etc and maybe the corse of history would be changed.

OR PERHAPS it would be alot worser. Maybe the whole world maybe communist if it wasnt for hitler. and maybe instead of just 9 mill perished. They may be 500 mill perished due to the communis's.

Hitler may have actually saved lives.

The_Black_Cat
06-01-2011, 10:03 AM
about religion: christianity is 600 years older that islam....does this mean they can claim 'it all' now? and what about jews...they were there before christians again....and before that i'm sure we honored the biggest tree around....let's go back to that ok? respect for nature...is all we got and need.

about 'taking back what's ours'...who says it is ours to take? americans same deal: first they murdered entire native poulation and place what's left in 'concentration camps' (yea you guys had them as well 'to store' indians and japanese people...) and then they claim that land as it were theirs to take....look at your own history....sounds familiar right? esp. israel...it has never really been anyone's land....was just a quick way to solve problems they had involving jews at that time....england had to move from middle east and left the land to them.

we have always looked at differences when looking at other people but we should actually focus on common ground for once....before we start making same mistakes again....we owe this planet and all it's life.

MrWorker
06-01-2011, 11:39 AM
I Understand what your saying. But thats a different thing. Iam talking about isreal. isreal was a country before it was overrun. Its like saying that german had no right to the rhine industrial area of germany after it was siezed by allied soldiers after ww1. Same thing really. But like i said JEWS do have a right to finnally live in peace because no one in the world wants them in they country. And it was a jewish city 1000's of years ago before it was invaded. its like the nazis taking back the rhine WHICH rightfully belonged to them. TIME means nothing. whats right is right at the end of the day.

And when you mensioned worshipping trees lol. Thats paganism isnt it ?.

The concentration camps. Dont forget about what the japs did to us english and americans during the war they made us ( SLAVE LABOUR ) build railway tracks, and starving to death. and if you tried to escape you was executed with your head been cut off. The nazis where more humane then them animals. My grandad was captured at creet and he was a prisoner of war in a german pow camp. The germans and the english understood one another. the english and the japs dont.

MrWorker
06-01-2011, 11:45 AM
Theys no point in been liberal and understanding for one. when that one isnt the same way towards us. We have made loads of mistakes example. the english when they captured the japs POWS they treated them like german pows just normal in the camp. But the japs treated us like slaves. See what i mean ? Wheres the balance.

Me personnally i would treat the oposition the same way they treated my comrades.

By the way i am English not american.

And we should respect nature again. People make me sick beause they dont care about the world anymore.

TornFlesh
06-01-2011, 03:48 PM
Is al-quaeda allowed ? i wanna revive bin laden , so somone can throw me back in the ocean ...

MrWorker
06-01-2011, 10:42 PM
They belong in the water. infacts they belong on the sun. let them burn.

The_Black_Cat
06-02-2011, 10:09 AM
Rhine would be Dutch rather than German :P (other topic/history)

but besides the point...about israel: it exists since 1948 and everything before that is a claim they make according to the bible/tenach....which is bullocks to most.

MrWorker
06-02-2011, 10:19 AM
No it asnt. its existed since it was created. 1000's of years ago its just palestinians invaded isreal. now isreal is taken back old ground. its only like what the nazis did to germany. Why do you think its ok for one and not for the other ?. Loads of people love nazis. They took back old ground and killed loads of people. Its Only like the isrealys, they taking back old ground and killing the odd person here and they through self defense yet nobody likes isreal ? I dont understand its all the same as far as iam concerned. And it is true its just ignorant people wish to ignore it.

The_Black_Cat
06-02-2011, 10:19 AM
and btw paganism isn't same as devotion to nature....

The_Black_Cat
06-02-2011, 10:20 AM
oooh like that you mean.....well such jews and nazi's are more alike than they think.

both fascists....

MrWorker
06-02-2011, 10:23 AM
Since its made its comeback in 1948. Its become the most modern day. Democratic countrie in the middle east now in just 60 years or so. Thats pretty good. considering the other nation arround thats been up and running for 1000's of years. ( They rich countries aswell the presidents and dictators are rich the people may not be but they still rich countries. ). The middle east is just for war and terroism. But isreal no doubt is the best middle eastern countri.

MrWorker
06-02-2011, 10:28 AM
Paganism is a Nature Religion so basically it is mate.
I wouldnt say jews are that bad they peaceful towards me. Its the muslim radicals that are the new nazi fascists pal. all the jews are doing is defending they home from them. They will never fall not again.

xXxMarlieSxXx
06-02-2011, 10:35 AM
I will take up my weapons and defend myself against the nazi pigs in the south of Belgium. Still no government and a split possible between flemisch and french people in belgium. And I almost forgot we got a population of 1 million immigrants (read: Marroc, Turkey, Iran, etc ...). What we gonna do with them. Think we better ship them back cause there will not be place enough if we start trowing rocks in Brussel.

The_Black_Cat
06-02-2011, 10:39 AM
well in my opinion jews and muslims are both mental for doing what they do: kill and attack people that think differently.

same with other religious freaks...

and besides i think arabic population over there is defending what is theirs as well LOL so they both use same argument for attacking the other....

but i do admit jews had better results with that piece of land indeed....

The_Black_Cat
06-02-2011, 10:40 AM
@ marlies: you guys should have never left the Dutch ;)

The_Black_Cat
06-02-2011, 10:41 AM
now you got to try and live with frenchies....lol

The_Black_Cat
06-02-2011, 10:50 AM
[NB. to get back at original post: i do think Nazi's should allowed to be used...as well as Hitler.

esp. since USSR can be used as well ... or certain mob figures that were closely involved in nasty politics as well

for example: i used "Arkan" as a name in the past.....is a known figure in the Netherlands but just for being a mob-like criminal....in Serbia on the other hand he's known for brutal murders and killing Bosnians....so while it's a plain criminal in the Netherlands, he is a war hero in Serbia and a war criminal in Bosnia...

after receiving several posts from both parties i felt i didn't wanted such a loaded name so i never used it again....

The_Black_Cat
06-02-2011, 10:51 AM
BUT i do believe i should be ABLE to use it if i want to.....]

The_Black_Cat
06-02-2011, 10:58 AM
and i'm quite rude about immigrants (and esp. from those countries you mentioned): they should adapt...or go back.

over here they try and change the Netherlands into their own countries which they left for what reason exactly? they wanted to be free.....

now they want to take away our freedom to say what we want and so on....muslims never been through Age of Enlightenment like other religions did so they are still as dogmatic as they always been....they try and build mosques everywhere and in meantime they don't allow christians to build churches over there....hypocrite fossiles.

MrWorker
06-02-2011, 03:10 PM
I agree with everything you have just 'V' ^^^

Like i said the world is just abig contradiction. i think everyone should just become rastafarians and live by. I AND I. At the end of the day we are all brothers and sisters and children of god. So lets make the world a better place. Hate the sin and not the sinner. One Love.

Radicals are just confused. They dont read they scriptures properly religion is about love compassion and care. Obviously nobodys gonna be perfect but thats not the point. Jesus did'nt want religion he wanted people to believe in god. But not religion.

I believe in god is farther and creator. jesus is lord and savour. I say thanks to god. and i repent my sins thats all anybody as to do. Its very simple and easy and that is all god wants.

HE DOSNT WANT PEOPLE KILLING FOR HIM it states very clearly. ''''THY SHALL NOT KILL''''

Only god can give or take life.

The_Black_Cat
06-03-2011, 11:47 AM
contradiction: what if......god is not a 'he' but a 'she'...or an 'it'? anyone ever checked that out? lol

if some people had lived today we probably send such people to prison or at least a psychiatric ward....: jesus for being a naive, love spreading hippy, mohammed for being an aggressive pedophile and so on....

The_Black_Cat
06-03-2011, 11:48 AM
btw i have noticed people can also give and take a life....more than one.

MrWorker
06-03-2011, 01:15 PM
That isnt a contradiction. God isnt a he or she But you just say that.

Yes people can kill other people because of free will. But they evil for doing it aint they. Or dont you agree ?

The_Black_Cat
06-04-2011, 10:57 AM
well to some it's a BIG deal whether he/she/it would be an he/she/it...some say that male dominance in most cultures is based upon such long lasting 'opinions'....where the original mother earth got replaced by father time or father creator....which still makes me wonder how long it will take for us to grow up and stop believing fairytales.

and "Ethics"....always worth a discussion.

If a woman defends her daughter from being raped by stabbing an attacker to death i can't say she has been acting out of 'evil intentions'....but would she be considered a good person if she had allowed her daughter to be raped....? Dilemma right?

So i guess if you kill to defend life on a bigger scale or kill to just (because you like) to end a life there IS a difference....if you take a life to prevent worse things from happening i personally think it's worth a though at least.

Although i'd like to state that all life should be equally respected....

MrWorker
06-04-2011, 02:45 PM
Well yeah to any Normal sane person you would stop an attacker from killing or raping a family member or someone else if you saw them. I dont give a shit about poltical correctness rich famous or celebs to me thats fairytales.

Lets say in general. if someone attacks a innocent person with maybe a mugging, And that person pulls out a knife in self defence and the attacker still attacks then to me that guy whos been mugged as all right to stab the guy because after all its the muggers fault and he's doing it in self defence. But usually with this crappy system the Innocent person would go to prison for carring a weapon. where as the mugger would just get let off and he will probably get compensation and down the line he would mug again or kill. That is how shitty this govenment and system is Wheres the justice ?. THATS why i support vigilante movements. It seems these days people on earth have got to make they own justice and fuck the system.

If someone killed one of my family members or rape or whatever i would want to kill the perverted bastard. Iam only human.

MrWorker
06-04-2011, 02:52 PM
Who are you to say thing are fairytales ? If you dont agree for whatever reason then dont agree. But i dont see why you have to insult other people because of they faiths its as bad as stalin and hitler. You dont have to believe in religions if you dont want. But you still can believe in god believe in your perception.

Like i said all god wants people to do is love him 'GOD' say thanks for the good things in life. and repent your sins every now and then. preferably once a day but you can do it once a week or once a year solong as you mean it. theys no correct way of doing anything its how you feel. Like i said its a personnal relationship with god. theys no correct way or wrong way of doing anything, and try your best to be a good person.

Even if you still dont believe you and everyone should still live by good morals

The_Black_Cat
06-04-2011, 06:47 PM
religion again...lol

they suck....all of them...just because the simple fact they are man made so they are a failure to begin with....and which 'god' are we talking about here? jahweh, allah, old- or new testament one?

how can "eye for an eye..." and "turn the other cheek..." can come from the same book!? it's one contradiction after the other....

and please don't tell me you are one of those people that reject 'evolution theory' as well....

sidenote: people voted 200-300 years after jesus died if he was son of god or not....people voted!?

same with things they would allow in the bible: they voted which things suited them and which didn't....

it's scientific and historical fact.

so that sounds like a fairytale book to me.....they are both about same thing: stories about moral.....and that's it.

The_Black_Cat
06-04-2011, 06:49 PM
and i doubt stalin and hitler combined could 'outcompete' any religion when it comes to murdering.....

MrWorker
06-04-2011, 08:10 PM
Hahahaha. Like i said at beginning on this or another post.

I believe in evolution, aliens so on so on. But i believe god created it all. I believe in abrahamic religion. Kinda like rastafari they abrahamic aswell. They not religious - religious like judaism christianity or islam. But they believe in god and jesus They have they own perception. Thats kinda like me i believe in god and jesus but i have my own perception. And if i have to recognise myself as anything then it would be christian ofcourse.

MrWorker
06-04-2011, 11:25 PM
Oh and Christians dont drule on the bible. Like other religions do. The bible is just wise man knowledge and morality. Christians praise jesus NOT the bible.

And you too are excersing faith when you call everyone idiots and putting your faith forward you too are excercising faith. Most athiests are hipocrits sorry but that to is fact. To me athiests are like any other religion. I dont care if you have whatever you believe solong as you dont insult me or my faith. Theys no point to it. THATS why theys so many wars all over the world because people are so ignorant to others.

Al-Capone
06-06-2011, 04:17 AM
Oh and Christians dont drule on the bible. Like other religions do. The bible is just wise man knowledge and morality. Christians praise jesus NOT the bible.

And you too are excersing faith when you call everyone idiots and putting your faith forward you too are excercising faith. Most athiests are hipocrits sorry but that to is fact. To me athiests are like any other religion. I dont care if you have whatever you believe solong as you dont insult me or my faith. Theys no point to it. THATS why theys so many wars all over the world because people are so ignorant to others.

Atheists are like liberals, both of these people insult the opposite to them for being brainwashed by their beliefs or by being assertive to try and get their point across yet there are no extremists like atheist extremists. Atheists will sit there and tell you your religion is stupid and try to tear it apart. A Muslim will tell you his religion is right, a Christian the same but they won't sit at the same table trying to deconstruct your religion in front of you.

Liberals are all the same, they call you fascist when you try and assert or explain conservative ideals and traditions yet they call for the destruction of these traditions and ideals and claim they are being progressive.

Atheists and liberals, the two dumbest and contradictory people in the world.

MrWorker
06-06-2011, 11:09 AM
I agree with you AL. Athiest's + Liberal's = Communism, these are the REAL fascists bot combined theve killed over 130 mill people maybe a hell of alot more because of they faith or because they speak out about them. and communist russia - china was just a massive contradiction theve invaded territories and countries which dosnt belong to them over time. They are the REAL FASCISTs and REAL IMPERIALISTS.

The_Black_Cat
06-06-2011, 12:12 PM
i am not an atheist nor i'd like to call myself 'liberal'....BUT i do believe fairytales and religion are pieces of the same pie...moral stories with intention of improving someone's character/behaviour....AND besides the bible there's little proof anyone like jesus ever existed and even if he was: people voted 200 years later to determine if he would be seen as son of god or not.

so it's all peoples' imagination....

and about god (is "he/she/it" really out there or not): either way it won't make a difference for the way we live together...it's about finding common ground and work towards a common future....religions are an obstacle course for such things.

The_Black_Cat
06-06-2011, 12:14 PM
religious dogma's are shite....

The_Black_Cat
06-06-2011, 12:24 PM
and i don't mind conservative ideals build over time but some are just 'expired'...they lost their good use long, long time ago...like religion as well: it's not like i hate it or want it gone but i'd like people to be less serious about the little differences and instead focus on common ground.

NB. i prefer freedom of speech over religious freedom....just because the last is one big contradiction when it comes to freedom.

MrWorker
06-06-2011, 03:30 PM
People arnt like that though. You can't change what is. Theys always gonna be dirty extremist radicals out they. I want them exterminated from good decent people of socety but the traitor government always allow them in. Theys always gonna be religous hate skin colour hate. Its inevitable ( If Thats how you spell it ). Iam not religous. I believe in god. But iam not religous.

Thats how it should be. if people want to believe what they want then they should do. But they should'nt call someone else names like, my religion is better than yours or god with us etc. because GOD IS WITH EVERYBODY.

The fact is the majority of people are too greedy they love war and hatred. The only time the world will come to total peace is when god decideds to end the world.

MrWorker
06-06-2011, 03:30 PM
What are V yo still havent said. Are you agnostic or do you believe in god but not religous ?

BlackCat
06-06-2011, 05:36 PM
I don't get it right: 05-27-2011 08:15 PM
#41 MrWorker
Iam drawing aline under religion and stuff now because its doing my F-ing head in.


And then you blithely contradict yourself but banging on about religion for the next 6 pages.

MrWorker
06-06-2011, 08:06 PM
I don't get it right: 05-27-2011 08:15 PM
#41 MrWorker
Iam drawing aline under religion and stuff now because its doing my F-ing head in.


And then you blithely contradict yourself but banging on about religion for the next 6 pages.

No Not me. People kept going on about it. Giving questions insulting etc, so i was just answering them and giving my opinions. Understand ?. Solong as you keep going on about religion so will i i tried to change subject but nobody wants to. So be it. We march forward

MrWorker
06-06-2011, 08:08 PM
PS: you should read other peoples remarks aswell. Before questioning mine. Iam just retaliating. If you read all the replies you would understand that.

MrWorker
06-06-2011, 08:08 PM
Its not all one sided. But with athiests. It always seems to be.

BlackCat
06-06-2011, 09:16 PM
"But with athiests. It always seems to be."


There's my point right there, I wasn't even discussing religion and you go right ahead and bring up athiests. Why?
You're not contractually obligated to keep replying you know.

Al-Capone
06-06-2011, 09:47 PM
It's not about being religious or not. I am a Roman Catholic. I do not attend church regularly and there is only one church I consider my own that I go to. I believe in a God and praise the Jesus story in the same manner I praise any film one falls for due to personal preference. It is a beautiful story full of hope, wisdom and altruism.

Now here come atheists, pointing to a almost non-existent minority like pedophile priests and Muslim extremists and claim religion damages the world more than it helps. In other words, a minority whom most never have the privilege to see should determine the fate of an entire group to you people? Well I know plenty of atheists who are extreme in their thoughts, use atheism as a way to promote their promiscuity, isolation, rudeness and utter discontent for human morale yet you don't see me claiming atheists need to be destroyed for the good of man!

Atheists much like liberals use the same tactic, they promote an image of horror into their audience and use it to justify their beliefs. In the case of religion, they use such things a pedophile priests or Muslim suicide bombers, etc. to justify their ludicrous statements. This is the same tactic the Allies used against Hitler from 1945 onwards. They created this horrific crime scene titled "The Holocaust" and use this as a base to deconstruct all ideals of tradition, honor, pride and racialism. At the same time, they never once mention "The Holodomor" where 10 million Ukrainians were brutally starved to death for Russian progression! In fact, the Jewish American Lobby actually sat down with the Ukrainian government recently due to the Ukrainian government and lobbies across the world increasing attention to their own genocide and told them to simmer down and not to conflict their genocide with the Holocaust!

This is why atheism would be nowhere without liberalism, these two groups are different sides to the same coin like Marxism is the different side of Capitalism yet they belong on the same coin!

Who are you to deconstruct such a story like Jesus and the Apostles? Is it wrong or our children to learn about altruism? It is well established by even science that history becomes more meaningful as time progresses. To watch a movie about altruism is nothing like creating mythical figures to inspire altruism into the mass public! Mythicism fascinates even the older public and was one of the main propaganda tools of the Nazi party. We should use what we know will work best to progress the human masses! Atheists finds flaws in a system and call for the tear down of the entire structure.

The_Black_Cat
06-06-2011, 10:29 PM
agnostic....like any other reasonable person should be....there's proof for neither both.

c'est ca...

The_Black_Cat
06-06-2011, 10:36 PM
"...., they promote an image of horror into their audience and use it to justify their beliefs. In the case of religion...."

if you start with the last part and finsh with the start......funny sentence it becomes all of a sudden.

and i don't mind the fairytales about the wolf and the three pigs nor do i mind the ones about jesus and other religious figures....if the moral benefits all.

The_Black_Cat
06-06-2011, 10:38 PM
In the case of religion they promote an image of horror into their audience and use it to justify their beliefs and it's called 'hell' and the 'devil'....

Al-Capone
06-06-2011, 10:55 PM
In the case of religion they promote an image of horror into their audience and use it to justify their beliefs and it's called 'hell' and the 'devil'....

Yes they do and they do this for the sake of human morale and altruism. This is what makes them tolerable... so what's your excuse? You're using horror as a tactic for leftist ideals and a bland world of nothing. If leftists are left to dominate the world, it will come to the point where people are demoralized, left of no feelings, pride, culture or any sort of identification to realize they're alive. Even leftist architecture signifies just what you people innately believe in.... the gray old blocks of brick stacked on top of each other to form one giant gray square for people to live in.

MrWorker
06-06-2011, 11:40 PM
I 100% agree with you AL. Youve said all what ive tried to explain.

Al-Capone
06-07-2011, 12:02 AM
I 100% agree with you AL. Youve said all what ive tried to explain.

Don't expect a leftist to understand you. They have been long brainwashed and are inspired to commit mental genocide against man. In the end, these liberals are motivated by nothing but their own rejectionism, egoism and immorality. The world will balance them out should the hour come.

The_Black_Cat
06-07-2011, 11:46 AM
"You're using horror as a tactic for leftist ideals and a bland world of nothing."

shows how little you really know about me....lol yet you are full of prejudice

i'm left when i notice right radicals....and i'm right when i notice left radicals....call me 'reason' :P

in this case you sounded like a true nazi so i felt the need to balance that out....ever been to a church? seen the gold and statues? yet you speak of altruism...you funny man ;)

MrWorker
06-07-2011, 02:04 PM
So V, it sounds like your trying to say. Athiest - Liberals - Leftists etc etc. Can DO, SAY whatever they want towards a religous or right wing person. But if a religous or right wing person says something back or retaliates its the religous person whos causing trouble ? or the right wing person thats been racist ?.

I live by my own code, an its called reality. If someones offensive against me ill be offensive against them. If someone gives his veiw then i will give mine. Its about balance and the leftists and the athiests always get away with more then what religous. or right wing people do.

Leftists are hipocrits. True fascists and imperialists

The_Black_Cat
06-08-2011, 11:01 AM
Too bad we can't ask all the people killed and tortured in name of god and religion right?

And maybe it sounds that way to you but if you read more careful it's very much alike the things you claim yourself:

"I live by my own code, an its called reality. If someones offensive against me ill be offensive against them. If someone gives his veiw then i will give mine. Its about balance ...." too bad you could not finish that sentence in the right way ;)

everyone able to say they're either left or right are fascists and imperialists....they just don't like hearing it ;)

The_Black_Cat
06-08-2011, 11:03 AM
and if you want to keep believing your fairytales about a virgin giving birth and people with wings flying around and people strolling across the water....is all cool with me.

my little nephew enjoys those stories as well.....although he is at an age we can't blame him from being naive....

The_Black_Cat
06-08-2011, 11:05 AM
trouble with most americans: they only know left and right....lmao!

MrWorker
06-08-2011, 03:22 PM
my point isnt about right or left been imperealists my point is that atleast the right say what they mean. The left lie and are hipocrits.

No Religion dosn't cause wars. Like i said the foundation of all proppa religions is Love and compassion. people who kill etc are going against that like jihadists and suicide bombers.

and V how can you call youself agnostic if you just emediatly say all religions are bullshit ?

MrWorker
06-08-2011, 03:30 PM
and the all point of the crusades was to fight back islam. It was invading countrys by force and military. it invaded half of spain and it started ivading east europe untill the crusaders came and fort it back in the east taking back christian turf. and the spanish fort like mad to defeat it in spain. then a few 100 years later the ottoman empire tred to invade YET AGAIN but they were eventually defeated by the british and french empire.God bless britian saved europe.

MrWorker
06-08-2011, 03:36 PM
FUCK NAZI GERMANY i blaim germany for the mess of europe today. NAZISM and RADICAL ISLAMISM have the same common goal. They both hate blacks and Jews plus whites.

Pipes
06-08-2011, 07:47 PM
How the hell do I Play the games

Pipes
06-08-2011, 07:49 PM
Bull shit I think I will win

The_Black_Cat
06-09-2011, 11:09 AM
my point isnt about right or left been imperealists my point is that atleast the right say what they mean. The left lie and are hipocrits.

No Religion dosn't cause wars. Like i said the foundation of all proppa religions is Love and compassion. people who kill etc are going against that like jihadists and suicide bombers.

and V how can you call youself agnostic if you just emediatly say all religions are bullshit ?

the first thing is just your opinion...

the second thing is the best joke i heard in a while....

and about that third thing: i can call religion whatever i want....and it IS bullshit....being agnostic means i do not deny or acknowledge there's a god but it doesn't strip me from the right to call a religion bullshit.

The_Black_Cat
06-09-2011, 11:17 AM
and the all point of the crusades was to fight back islam. It was invading countrys by force and military. it invaded half of spain and it started ivading east europe untill the crusaders came and fort it back in the east taking back christian turf. and the spanish fort like mad to defeat it in spain. then a few 100 years later the ottoman empire tred to invade YET AGAIN but they were eventually defeated by the british and french empire.God bless britian saved europe.

where did they teach you history? english school for nationalists? btw you can't invade a country by 'love' so ofcourse there has been hundreds of years of wars over religion....christianity vs. islam but also catholics vs orthodox and catholic vs protestants, anglicans etc.

The_Black_Cat
06-09-2011, 11:21 AM
FUCK NAZI GERMANY i blaim germany for the mess of europe today. NAZISM and RADICAL ISLAMISM have the same common goal. They both hate blacks and Jews plus whites.

mess of europe today is to blame upon lazy countries beneath the Alps....italy, spain, greece, portugal etc....weak economies, lazy people etc...and if there is 1 country that is responsible for strength of europe today it's germany.....they have very strong economy.

any radical (whatever they believe) is a scary person....

MrWorker
06-09-2011, 11:36 AM
Hitler or should i day ABDUL SHITLER. Loved islam he is the route of our problms traitoring cunt. JEW POWER. Hitler was an evil bastard he admired the islamic violence and hatred towards the jews. The jews are normal peace loving people. Ill prefer to be around jews IN MY OPINION PAL.

Nah they isnt any nationalist schools in england. Istead we learn about arab imagrants who come to this country and ''suffer''. traitoring govenment cunts we didnt want you to come to our country if you dont like our country then GET THE FUCK OUT !! is simple. I am a english nationalist i think someones gotta be otherwise englands gonna go to the dogs NO thanks. ENGLAND TILL I DIE. Fuck the rich traitors and the communists.

And i said religion dosnt cause wars people do. how can a book cause war ?. People cause war

JoeyF
06-09-2011, 11:55 AM
mess of europe today is to blame upon lazy countries beneath the Alps....italy, spain, greece, portugal etc....weak economies, lazy people etc...and if there is 1 country that is responsible for strength of europe today it's germany.....they have very strong economy.

any radical (whatever they believe) is a scary person....

I thought that germany had a strong economy though because the Euro suited there economy more than the countries you have mentioned (and not because the people are just more lazy)?

MrWorker
06-09-2011, 03:11 PM
Fact of the matter is my Christian brothers and sisters are been persecuted world wide. Russia. middle eastern countries. Egypt Pakisan india etc etc. By the forces of darkness by Radical athiests and radical muslims.

Someones got to say something im personnally getting fed up with the athiests leftists always getting they veiws across but We can never. I say enough. iam gonna give my opinion for once. down with the leftist fascist SCUM.

Let me make this clear. I dont have a problem with what anyone believes. I just hate radical extremists and the majority of radicalism comes from radical islam ( Al-quida - taliban ). and athiests

BlackCat
06-09-2011, 05:17 PM
You don't care what they believe but you hate them for not believing in the same things as you. By some peoples definition that is radicalism. You realise that right.

MrWorker
06-09-2011, 08:05 PM
What are you talking about. Ill Re explain it again son. I dont care what people believe. You get me far ?. I hate radicalism and radicalism is majority in athiests and muslims. you get me ?. Not all athiest muslims are radicals but the majority is and thats fact sory but thats FACT. Iam sick of repeating myself.

MrWorker
06-09-2011, 08:14 PM
Are you saying that. Solong as you believe in something its ok to blow shit up and kill people ? solong as it for your religion..... and if you speak out about it your extremist ..... Sounds like a leftist to me. ? <--- i hate these kind of people personnally but at the end of the day iam a normal person i havent got a sick perverse mind like that.

BlackCat
06-09-2011, 09:25 PM
That's what I said you hate radicals but in hating radicals and muslims you yourself have become radical. Oh where's the proof that there are more radicals in the muslim faith than any other? Are we talking in number of believers or simply creed because I think you'll find theat catholicism has just as many radicals if not more.

Al-Capone
06-09-2011, 10:09 PM
Too bad we can't ask all the people killed and tortured in name of god and religion right?

And maybe it sounds that way to you but if you read more careful it's very much alike the things you claim yourself:

"I live by my own code, an its called reality. If someones offensive against me ill be offensive against them. If someone gives his veiw then i will give mine. Its about balance ...." too bad you could not finish that sentence in the right way ;)

everyone able to say they're either left or right are fascists and imperialists....they just don't like hearing it ;)

How many people were really killed in the name of God? Also, wouldn't that make the individuals bad and not God? How does someone doing unjustly acts in the name of God equal to God should be removed from public life? People do bad things every day on a larger scale in the same of sexual lust. So according to your logic, we should remove sex from public life?

Let's ask how many people suffer today from liberals such as yourself. Let's ask the middle east, Africa, even Europe how liberalism has affected them. How may people have died in the name of democracy which is a disgrace because Capitalist-Marxism can never be democracy.

It seems you're a contradictory fool who just likes talking as if he knows everything. You're a bourgeois thinker, you think you are being edgy and unique by claiming to be atheist and shooting down people's beliefs. When in reality, you only show your own ignorance. To say that God does not exist without giving proof of it makes you what? An assumptionist.

BlackCat
06-09-2011, 10:30 PM
Not wishing to question your views at all Al but if saying god doesn't exist and not providing proof makes you an assumptionist then saying god does exist and not providing proof makes you? Devout?

I'm merely curious.

Al-Capone
06-09-2011, 10:47 PM
FUCK NAZI GERMANY i blaim germany for the mess of europe today. NAZISM and RADICAL ISLAMISM have the same common goal. They both hate blacks and Jews plus whites.

It's no wonder V is dancing circles around you in this argument with such a level of ignorance. Nazi Germany was the last hope for mankind. Hitler loved your country and ordered BOMBER planes to load up with pamphlets of a written speech from him writing why Germany and England should stop the war and continue as allies, not enemies. Don't blame Hitler because the English people, usually smart, chose a dumb nudist/Jewish slave worker with mental problems to lead them into the midst of war.

The destruction of Nazi Germany is the reason for the mess in Europe today. Hitler and his later regime would have never allowed for Germany nor any European nation to lower itself enough to open its blood gates into the third world. Hitler was a reaction of Bolshevism. If it wasn't for Hitler giving his strike to the east, communism would have taken over Germany and went on to surround the world.

Smarten up and think critically, I know it's hard being an Englishman you will always have a basic bias against Germany because you were enemies of war but try to think without emotion and surround the facts for what they are, facts.

Al-Capone
06-09-2011, 10:54 PM
Not wishing to question your views at all Al but if saying god doesn't exist and not providing proof makes you an assumptionist then saying god does exist and not providing proof makes you? Devout?

I'm merely curious.

I suggest you read my post which is I believe on the top of page 11 or page 12 for further input but I will sum it up again for you;

It does not matter whether He is real or not. Who are you to say he does not exist for people who want to believe so? The feeling of God and religion helps those in times of need. So what are you objecting to? People's moral gullibility? Which part of religion are you against? The part that says love your fellow man, etc? Or the part that says do not lie or steal?

To me; denying God without proof is dumb found, believing in God without proof is merely comforting and soothing for those that do. I have not stated whether I believe in God yet nor have I stated that I believe in the sole teachings of one religion. The most I said was that my background is Roman Catholic.

What is your reason for denying God? Tell me that one...

The reason for putting faith in God is to build moral energy for yourself and your surroundings and to give yourself a sense of hope in times of misery or when ease of sin is most prevalent.

Ikah
06-09-2011, 11:05 PM
I believe in god even though for me the word "god" has another definition it is not someone that can look over everyone even when they are pissing (that would be a big privacy problem) but is the person/energy/singularity that created the big bang. God is just the creator.

While religions , all religions have big philosophical /psychological flaws. When I show my questions to religious "professionals" they all say the same thing "God can not be questioned" . All religious books were very useful at a time when u didn't need a license to buy a sword or bow. It was some sort of international constitution.
And almost all religion were used to justify wars. NOT ONLY ISLAM. Christianity With the famous crusades and with the witch hunting killed so many more people than September 11 attacks. As for children we let them believe in Santa clause why not let them believe in Jesus Christ and other gods? However figures such as Satan and daemons should be minimized for kids . Some people are predisposed to be psychologically weak therefore they become very mentally unstable . Even though eventually they will become mentally unstable anyways but at least they will not see daemons in their illusions.

MrWorker
06-10-2011, 12:30 AM
1st of santa clause is real...... for children. i dont know why but thats a different topic.

like ive said the crusades where to counter attack muslims the muslims invaded all christian countrys in middle east and christians at the time had all middle east an north africa untill the mulims invaded. and jerusalem was a christian holy city yet they is only a minority of christian there to day.
AHHHH that part about you saying that christians are radicals is false cults like the ''Jesus chistians''' Maybe radical but thats a small number and group. The muslims are the most radical its shown all over the world they hate towards other religion and contries. they intolerant and promote violence. they stone they women if they cheat. where as a chrstian would just pray for them to change they sinful ways. and they have the al quida and taliban.


NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE radicals. but about half ARE or share or support it

MrWorker
06-10-2011, 12:44 AM
And V. How the hell can you be agnostic but disgard other religions i think your coward in that perspective.

I agree children should know what cristmas is realy about. even hipocrit ahiests clebrate christmas. then they have the nerve to say its ok to celebrate. but they dont believ. No ITS NoT OK CHRIMBO ND easter is ABOUT jesus if your athist you shouldnt celebreta our cleberation its hipocitcal

BlackCat
06-10-2011, 07:16 AM
You're right Jerusalem was a holy city for the christians. But it's also a holy city for Muslims and Jews. The reason there is such a small Christian populace there now is because the crusades failed. Miserably.

Oh and Christmas and Easter? Both pagan festivals that existed long before the bible was even dictated.

The_Black_Cat
06-10-2011, 11:24 AM
How many people were really killed in the name of God? Also, wouldn't that make the individuals bad and not God? How does someone doing unjustly acts in the name of God equal to God should be removed from public life? People do bad things every day on a larger scale in the same of sexual lust. So according to your logic, we should remove sex from public life?

Let's ask how many people suffer today from liberals such as yourself. Let's ask the middle east, Africa, even Europe how liberalism has affected them. How may people have died in the name of democracy which is a disgrace because Capitalist-Marxism can never be democracy.

It seems you're a contradictory fool who just likes talking as if he knows everything. You're a bourgeois thinker, you think you are being edgy and unique by claiming to be atheist and shooting down people's beliefs. When in reality, you only show your own ignorance. To say that God does not exist without giving proof of it makes you what? An assumptionist.

My dear assumptionist:

i think you won't get far in life if you keep reading what you like to read instead of what's being written in the first place.....

1] remove religion instead of god is what i said i think (or something along that line)...religions are dogmatic and manmade....god is another story and hard to deny/proof so that's why agnostic (i like to have my own interpretation rather than all the fairytale stories).
2] YOU call me liberal....not claimed anything like that myself....just because i'm able to think outside the box and you're stuck in it isn't my fault but your own. (you small minded etc)
3] you seem to "know" exactly what others are about but i'd suggest you try and get to know yourself for a change....you are clueless so it seems on many, many things.

finish primary school and contact me again if you succeeded ok?

The_Black_Cat
06-10-2011, 11:25 AM
Not wishing to question your views at all Al but if saying god doesn't exist and not providing proof makes you an assumptionist then saying god does exist and not providing proof makes you? Devout?

I'm merely curious.

lmao! very, very much.......

The_Black_Cat
06-10-2011, 11:26 AM
I suggest you read my post which is I believe on the top of page 11 or page 12 for further input but I will sum it up again for you;

It does not matter whether He is real or not. Who are you to say he does not exist for people who want to believe so? The feeling of God and religion helps those in times of need. So what are you objecting to? People's moral gullibility? Which part of religion are you against? The part that says love your fellow man, etc? Or the part that says do not lie or steal?

To me; denying God without proof is dumb found, believing in God without proof is merely comforting and soothing for those that do. I have not stated whether I believe in God yet nor have I stated that I believe in the sole teachings of one religion. The most I said was that my background is Roman Catholic.

What is your reason for denying God? Tell me that one...

The reason for putting faith in God is to build moral energy for yourself and your surroundings and to give yourself a sense of hope in times of misery or when ease of sin is most prevalent.

and how contradicting is this!? om my great Muppet in the sky....

The_Black_Cat
06-10-2011, 11:29 AM
1st of santa clause is real...... for children. i dont know why but thats a different topic.

no no....lol this is the same topic still: god is real....for his children ;)

you weirdo's contradict yourself with each message and accuse me of funniest things.....grow up!

The_Black_Cat
06-10-2011, 11:30 AM
You're right Jerusalem was a holy city for the christians. But it's also a holy city for Muslims and Jews. The reason there is such a small Christian populace there now is because the crusades failed. Miserably.

Oh and Christmas and Easter? Both pagan festivals that existed long before the bible was even dictated.

at least one person paid attention in school and in life.....

MrWorker
06-10-2011, 12:16 PM
no no....lol this is the same topic still: god is real....for his children ;)

you weirdo's contradict yourself with each message and accuse me of funniest things.....grow up!

How on earth is that a contradicting ?. santa claus and god are different you idiot. Your an athiest not an agnostic. agnostic are open minded. your been closed minded by calling your father names and insulting religion your another militant athiest but you call yourself agnostic because your a coward

MrWorker
06-10-2011, 12:19 PM
You're right Jerusalem was a holy city for the christians. But it's also a holy city for Muslims and Jews. The reason there is such a small Christian populace there now is because the crusades failed. Miserably.

Oh and Christmas and Easter? Both pagan festivals that existed long before the bible was even dictated.

Not for muslims its not REALLY muslims havent got nothing to do with it but they just want to invade more of christian and jewish ground. muslims have mecca and another place jerusalalem is for christians and jews

and long before christians it was totally jewish the jews have total right over it.

MrWorker
06-10-2011, 12:22 PM
the holidays are close to pagan holidays that cant be helped. easter is when jesus was crucified and christmas is for the birth of jesus.

MrWorker
06-10-2011, 12:23 PM
and you still havent replied to this. why isit thathiest celebrate christmas and easter if they dont believe in our faith. Then why are you your contradicting yourself ?

BlackCat
06-10-2011, 01:39 PM
Jerusalem is the third most Holy site in the Middle East for Muslims. It's where their prophet ascended to heaven. If you believe such things. Who are you to say they have no claim to it?

MrWorker
06-10-2011, 04:52 PM
..... and It's where our lord and savour died and resurected then went to heaven. So who are the muslims kicking us christians out of our own holy land IN A JEWISH STATE !!.

MrWorker
06-10-2011, 04:56 PM
The only holy place christians have thats totally christian is vatican city. and thats for catholics. Us protestants dont have nothing.

MrWorker
06-10-2011, 05:07 PM
Btw iam not religous. i believe in god and jesus and i have the cross tatooed on my finger. i have my personnal beliefs. But thats me.

iTasteLikeCandy
06-10-2011, 06:20 PM
..... and It's where our lord and savour died and resurected then went to heaven. So who are the muslims kicking us christians out of our own holy land IN A JEWISH STATE !!.

Are you retarded? What fucking Muslims are kicking Christians outta Jerusalem? Last I checked its Israeli Zionist oppression thats tormenting Arab Christians in the Holy Land. And not only Arab Christians all sorts of Christians as well.....

Church Showered with Stones in North
http://www.compassdirect.org/english/country/israel/2009/newsarticle_5976.html


Church Building in Israel Set Ablaze
http://www.compassdirect.org/english/country/israel/28054

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E7Ruusn1QM

BlackCat
06-10-2011, 07:21 PM
To break that further down for you MrWorker Israeli Zionists are Jews.

White_Dragon
06-10-2011, 11:11 PM
i am The origional Nazi nion don. I Created the fam as a theme during the bank time. i got froze for the 2 round using hitler without any warning. lol every member of both fams us1ed a powerful nazi name. it was pretty sick shit. WHY WHY? i still got fam icons, profile medias andd 1 of thosed members lol anyone wanna see it up again ??? hahaha

Sir_White_Dragon

MrWorker
06-10-2011, 11:29 PM
Well white dragon if they allow soviet icons i cant imagine why they wont allow nazi icons lol. its the same radical shit as far as iam concerned.

Like ive said aswell i dont have a problem with jews. in the past 3000 years or so theve been slaved killed persecuted and looked down upon theve had they land stolen etc. so i dont mind if they have abit of bad blood with the world i think they have a right to be abit mad. As far as iam concerned jews are peaceful people they keep themselves to themselves.

Alot of people hate the jews and they have no idea why. probably because they follow deluded people like hitler who was a radical muslim supporter may i had. Look up muslims ZZ battalions and you'l see. and hitler quotes.

MrWorker
06-10-2011, 11:31 PM
Hitler saved europe from communism. TO AN EXTENT. So ill give him that one. but even after the war the communists owned half of germany so it didnt go so well plus poland and a few other countrys. so he only saved europe to an extent

Al-Capone
06-11-2011, 01:40 AM
Hitler saved europe from communism. TO AN EXTENT. So ill give him that one. but even after the war the communists owned half of germany so it didnt go so well plus poland and a few other countrys. so he only saved europe to an extent

I said it once I'll say it again, this is why V danced circles around you in arguments, because you have no idea what you're talking about 90% of the time.

Hitler TRIED his best to save Europe. He was an orphan living miserably on a orphan's pension in Vienna and became leader of Germany only 20 years later. In the course of 2 short years he revived the German economy and brought about a world power to the world. He inspired people from across the globe to realize communism for what it really was; Jewish Bolshevism to dominate the world.

Of course starting from January 30th, 1933 (the day Hitler came to power) he was boycotted by world Jewry and from there Zionism in all corners of the world brought their power to bring the world into another World War. Only small minded and hopeless people such as yourself can sit there and be mad at Hitler for losing against the entire Zionist controlled world instead of being inspired by his heroic attempt to save mankind. If it wasn't for Hitler coming to power, the communist would have had no trouble coming into power during the Great Depression and Germany turning communist would have been the last domino needed to tip over the rest.

http://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/judea_declares_war_on_germany.jpg

White_Dragon
06-11-2011, 02:26 AM
Well ill speak to my advisor and we will see about having it up next rouind lmao haha. ps im not racist really, i dont mind jews, etc. do it for a bit of extra publicity lol.

to the guy who said russia owned half of germany, yes they did, and look where it took them back to the stone agel west was the best.

next round Nazi iS the theme lol :D


sir_White_Dragon

BlackCat
06-11-2011, 07:38 AM
Hitler supported Muslims? That's news to me. In what I wonder.

The_Black_Cat
06-11-2011, 10:56 AM
and you still havent replied to this. why isit thathiest celebrate christmas and easter if they dont believe in our faith. Then why are you your contradicting yourself ?

those days were celibrated long before christianity took them hostage....lol so why are christians celibrating 'pagan' days?

and santa and jesus are both inventions of mankind....just as all religions are. so i'm still not contradicting myself....

you (btw) are: "Btw iam not religous. i believe in god and jesus and i have the cross tatooed on my finger. i have my personnal beliefs. But thats me."

your own words....

The_Black_Cat
06-11-2011, 11:35 AM
may i suggest to all christians, muslims, jews etc to all back off and leave the rest of the world alone!! you all believe a fairytale book written by humans and issues people (...) voted over!? and those 'inventions' you call the word or will of god....that's why we have psychiatry these days: to cure the deluted and mentally challenged like most of them are.

just watching TV and seeing those bearded monkeys burning western flags or watching so called religious peeps walk around in pyjama's all day!? why won't they grow up? and if you believe in god or whatever: shut up as well! no one needs to know the madness you created in your head....with flying men and virgins waiting for you when you died (btw did anyone make sure they are female virgins :P)

and americans: muslims (and other religious freaks) are slowly taking over USA because they use the same freedom you allow them to have to take away our freedom as sane people....for example: you give asylum to the same person who is biggest threat to turkish democracy....same is happening in europe: religious freaks are slowly assimilating free world.

(you'd almost hope for chinese invasion this way :P)

The_Black_Cat
06-11-2011, 11:37 AM
and before anyone calls me "communist" again: they don't like religion as well......

MrWorker
06-11-2011, 12:52 PM
Haha i gotta laugh at all that crap above me.

Al: Iam a ENGLISH NATIONALIST you fool i support and love MY COUNTRY not fucking germany Germany bombed my country and murdered my people. iam english and iam christian i will defend my land christians english land. England was built on christianity. I dont mind muslims SOLONG AS THEY NOT EXTREMIST RACIST and that they Respect our culture and religion.

And V yes Im trying to tell you all along. i believe in god and jesus but iam not religious. athiest leftist secualar humanists always assume youve got to be religious to believe in god. your all hipocritical bastards.

England is anglican protestantism we defended it against IRA catholics. german communists. and we will defend it from any other radical bastards.

ENGLAND TILL I DIE.

BlackCat
06-11-2011, 01:17 PM
IRA catholics? See up til now I had a suspicion you were retarded but was happy to let you make an idiot out of yourself. But now I know you're a retard. What the hell would the IRA want with England?

White_Dragon
06-11-2011, 01:42 PM
BNP and CoE!

sir_White_Dragon

MrWorker
06-11-2011, 04:58 PM
English democrats !!!!!

MrWorker
06-11-2011, 05:02 PM
Is they something wrong with a englishman wanting england to turn back english and not into the middle east ?

MrWorker
06-11-2011, 05:07 PM
The IRA, Catholics, Nazis, muslims, UAF leftists are all pro palestine they share something in comon they hate jews even the pope was a pre nazi lol. These stupid fuckers have no idea what they talking about.

EDL. UVF . protestants english nationalists. are pro ISREAL. We are the rightous ones palestine was isreal before it was inavded 1000s of years ago. isreal is taking back old ground and they have a right to do it.

pro ENGLAND AND PRO ISREAL.

BlackCat
06-11-2011, 07:42 PM
Oh yeah that's a good idea. Let's give everyone back their old territories shall we? Britain can have it's old empire back, excluding Northern Ireland of course. By rights that goes back to a unified country. We'll give Mexico and most of Southern America back to the Spainish and Portugese. The French can have Canada. The Native Americans can have their tribal grounds back and Germany can have most of Northern Europe. That's fair right

The_Black_Cat
06-11-2011, 10:40 PM
this thread is getting better each day....

The_Black_Cat
06-11-2011, 10:44 PM
@ mrworker: you remember the "glorious revolution"?

you know....when the Dutch invaded England and conquered it and made it anglican instead of catholic....?

english people have always been lead by outsiders: danish, dutch, americans....deal with it...you aren't as tough as you think....nor as christian as you think

you just let yourself believe that crap....it makes you feel secure...unless you realise you aren't what you think you are.

MrWorker
06-11-2011, 11:44 PM
England as alway been a great nation from the med evil days till now but now we face a new enemy a enemy within and THATS THE LEFTIST COMMUNIST FASCIST UAF SCUM.

They is only one people and thats the english race in england. like the serbians they serbian race the germans have they aryan race. the arabs have they race so on so on.

US english have our race our national identity and OUR RELIGION. we will not let it fall to any kind of plunderers NEVER AGAIN !. They too many patriots for england to fall.

Why should england fall ??. If we went to pakistan and built a church and start spreading our white british people they and start doing our own kind of terroism to they people. THEY WOULD BE HELL COMMING BACK AT US. But the leftist uaf think its ok to spread mosques and they race here and then insult us ?? AND THEY THINK THATS OK ???. NEVER !

The communist leftist want to destroy our heritage our culture and our religion. and they must be silenced. GOD WILLS IT.

MrWorker
06-11-2011, 11:45 PM
Iam just point out facts that must be heared the leftists alwys get they veiws out NOW IAM GETTING MINE OUT. they want to be radical then ill be radical back. Ive had enough of just sitting and taking it. your gonna get some of your own medicine back

MrWorker
06-11-2011, 11:49 PM
At the end of the day the leftists must be crushed for human survival unless you want to end up
like NK and be starving

MrWorker
06-11-2011, 11:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkL9SB06Tpc&feature=related

MrWorker
06-12-2011, 12:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCCelkJfv04

MrWorker
06-12-2011, 12:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf0d_VUuu0k&feature=related

dnj12345
06-12-2011, 12:58 AM
i agree if you can be called adolf hitler then you should be able to have a nazi party or have a nazi family because not all nazis hated jews i think most were just following there orders

The_Black_Cat
06-12-2011, 11:36 AM
yea i think religion is thread to our 'enlightened' society....when i often speak to such religious people i have a feeling of going back into time somehow (esp. muslims)....that goes for most religions (bunch of retards and pedophiles) and even some political views (too much nationalism).

time to set some standards and break away some borders...we got a planet to maintain...lives to cherish etc

MrWorker
06-12-2011, 02:24 PM
Whats the point of life if you just exist and dont live your life ?. In leftist communist states. they want you to be totally opressed. Theys no national idenity no religion no hope no glory. you cant say what you like without been imprisoned tortured or branded racist. YET the leftist always say they will stop oppression and that they will end all this nonsense. AHHH the leftist communists are a bunch of hipocrits.

I want to visit other countries as a tourist and see they culture the way they live ( I personnaly dont gve a shit about they culture really but this is an example ) And same with other countries every country as they own heritage and cultures. whats the point of going to another country to see theres if youve got it all in one place ?. That to would mean theys no hope or point in visiting somewhere else.

Everyone should just keep they countrys to themselves and live in they country. if they country is a shit hole then make it better for yourselves. Westerners made our civilisation from nothing iam sure easterners can aswell if they actually do some work.

MrWorker
06-12-2011, 02:31 PM
Like i said. You dont have to be religous to believe in god. Believe in whatever the hell you want but you dont have to discard god Your ment to be agnostic so you should know this.

Ive always thought agnostics are open minded about every possibility. And athiest discard everything apart from evolution.

BlackCat
06-12-2011, 02:37 PM
Your isolationist policy on a global scale would do far more harm than good. In more than one way. Example everybody keeps to themselves and so they don't share the natural resources with other countries. You do know where most the worlds oil comes from right?

MrWorker
06-12-2011, 02:41 PM
Doing business with oil is different then opening the flood gates to immagrants. '' you get me ''.

MrWorker
06-12-2011, 02:52 PM
a few immagrants fair enough thats fine. BUT NOT MASS IMAGRATION. england is only a small country with over 50 mill people in it. we are too full for crying out loud. Even a middle wing person realises this. an so does a left winger but thats all part of they plan.
I reckon the leftist globalists are the illumnati for they new world order

BlackCat
06-12-2011, 04:03 PM
Oh so mass immigration is a bad thing but mass exodus is the solution? That right you want to send everyone back to their own country because your country has too many inhabitants and that's their fault?

Where do you start? With the etnic minorities and risk being called a racist? Or maybe you should get rid of the royal family first and work your way down.

MrWorker
06-12-2011, 04:10 PM
Yeah if immagrants come to my country then it is the immagrants fualt for upping the population duhh. theys 100 other countrys in the world yet everyone wants to come to mine. Its because of the traitor government. And because immagrants are to lazy to sort they own mess out in they countries.

Ill tell How it need tos be done. Only people with a trade something to offer the country should be allowed in and they should only be allowed to stay if they patritotic to england love and respect OUR culture heritage an religion. OK.

You get immgrants that come to this country feed off of the welfare system. Take our women Spread drugs weapons gangs and chaos. and after all that there insult us. our dead by buring our poppys and saying SHARIA LAW FOR UK,

MrWorker
06-12-2011, 04:12 PM
If we went to pakistan for example. and built churches and did all the exact same as they doing to us. WE WOULD BE HANGED.

BlackCat
06-12-2011, 04:46 PM
What do you mean "If" you did go to Pakistan and build churches. British Empire remember. Pretty sure you weren't hung. Also pretty sure that's why so many people migrate from to Britain now.

Of course it isn't the peples fault for migrating to a coutry whose immigration laws are so lax it's laughable, of course if somebody is being persecuted in their own country they're going to leave. They'd be stupid to stay.

Look at Ireland for example when the potato famine struck and Britain did fuck all to help did the Irish stay in Ireland? No of course they didn't and why? Because that would have been stupid. So they migrated to America, with just cause. Whose to say the immigrants you have in your country now didn't leave their own country for similar reasons.